Getting StartedTo begin fishing, simply go to your local Hobby Master. (See locations below under Hobby Masters, Vendors, & Quests.) They will teach you how to fish, give you a basic fishing pole, and give you a short quest to find the local Fishing Supplier. Then just find a body of water and start fishing!
The Compleat Angler's Visual Guide to Fishing in Middle-Earth, created by LOTRO's DisposableHERO, will show you all of these Hobby Masters. As well as screenshots of all Fishing Suppliers, fish varieties, equipment, cooking recipes, and food. An amazing Web site.
[edit] What Can I Catch?Below is a list of known catches. With the exception of the asterisked fish (more details on them farther down), every one of these fish can be caught in any stream, lake, bay, pool, river, rill, gully, inlet, creek, brook, pond, or muddy puddle anywhere in the LOTRO world. Find your favorite spot and cast away!
The Compleat Angler's Visual Guide to Fishing in Middle-Earth, created by LOTRO's DisposableHERO, will show you pictures of every last one of these catches along with their accompanying text!
[edit] How Do I Level Up?If your fishing level is less than or equal to the "Levels Thru" number in the chart, you gain 1 fishing level for the catch--if you haven't reached your daily cap. (White #s are accurate. Red #s are approximate. Green #s are wildly approximate.) So if you're level 5 and you catch a goldfish, you go up to level 6. However, if you're level 6 and catch a goldfish, you will not go up to level 7.
What Can I Catch? Begining
Level Catchable Value Uses Level Through1Weeds1cNo KnownN/A1Goldfish1cNo Known55Rusty Dagger 1cNo KnownN/A6Minnow1cNo Known2010Bitterling1cNo Known3010Ball of Gunk2cNo KnownN/A10+Salmon*--All Are Trophiesvaries*17Charr1cNo Known4021Dace1cCook Recipe5127Barbel1cNo Known6031Smelt1cNo Known7135Catfish1cCook Recipe8050Rudd1cNo Known9050Rusty Hammer1cNo KnownN/A55Bullhead1cNo Known10058+Darter*25cNo Knownvaries*60+Trout*25cNo Knownvaries*62+Sturgeon*25cNo Knownvaries*65Old Boot2cNo KnownN/A66Grayling13cNo Known11177Houting13cNo Known12086Perch13cCook Recipe13290Rusty Mace1cNo KnownN/A993-Spined Stickleback13cNo Known1401069-Spined Stickleback13cNo Known150110Drift-wood1s 70cNo KnownN/A117Golden Mullet13cCook Recipe160125Rusty Sword1cNo KnownN/A125Flounder13cCook Recipe170135Carp13cNo Known180148Pike13cNo Known190149Dirty Skull1s 70cNo Known--156Largemouth Bass13cCook RecipeThrough Max172Rusty Axe1cNo Known--*These fish offer many variants that differ by location and fishing level. See "Zone-Specific Fish" chart below.
[edit] Trophy Fish for DecorationsEach non-asterisked fish above has a rare "trophy" counterpart that can also be caught anywhere. They generally can be caught starting about 5 levels above the regular fish, and their "levels thru" # is also about 5 above the regular. Below is a list of trophy names & links to their images. If you catch one, take it to the fishing taxidermist in Bree-Town near the vault. He'll mount it free as a wall decoration for your home. The decorations are tradable. Full credit & huge thanks go to Borgiered for all his time & effort collecting these, and to Instigator from allakhazam. (Salmon varieties, which are zone-specific, are all trophy fish. See Borgiered's list for pictures of the various salmon trophies. Darters, Trout, and Sturgeon offer no trophies.)
Trophy Fish for Decorations Giant GoldfishBarbarous BarbelGleaming GraylingGreat Golden MulletMagnificent MinnowSuperb SmeltHuge HoutingFantastic FlounderBright BitterlingCunning CatfishPerfect PerchCourageous CarpColourful CharrRuthless RuddTricky 3-SpinedPerfect PikeDelightful DaceBrawny BullheadNasty 9-SpineBig Mouth Bass[edit] Zone-Specific Fish and Their VariantsMost fish can be caught virtually everywhere. But a few species offer several variants, related both to fishing levels and zone. To catch them, you must be the appropriate fishing level and fishing in an appropriate zone of the world. Since they're quite rare, level numbers are still iffy as of 6/3. If you catch any of the fish shown below (or a new one not shown), please feel free to post what it was, what level you were, and where you were. Here is a basic breakdown. Approximate min. fishing level ("FL") is in parentheses. All are worth 25c each. None has any known use.
Zone-Specific Fish and Their Variants Low Zones
Ered Luin, Shire, Bree Mid Zones
Lonelands, NDMid-High Zones
Evendim, TrollshawsHigh Zones
Forochel, Angmar, MMSalmon2-lb (FL10)
15-lb (FL50)4-lb (FL11)
20-lb (FL70)6-lb (FL30)
30-lb (FL80)10-lb (FL40)
40-lb (FL100)
50-lb (FL151)DarterRedfin (FL60)
Bandfin (FL75)Blackfin (FL85)
Greenfin (FL73)
Splendid (FL100)Longfin (FL80)
Bloodfin (FL87)Orangefin (FL70)
Firebelly (FL 90)TroutBrown (FL60)
Speckled (FL85)
Lake (FL95)Bull (FL80)
Red Spotted (FL80)Cutthroat (FL75)
Rainbow (FL90)Redband (FL70)
Golden (FL90)SturgeonDwarf (FL60)
Shovelnose (FL80)Shortnose (FL69)
Pallid (FL80)Green (FL75)
Lake (FL88)
White (FL100)Fringebarbel (FL70)
Starry (FL90)[edit] The Use of BaitThere are 3 types of bait:
- Leech
- Nightcrawler
- Red Wiggler
Supposedly increasing in effectiveness from first to last. Bait can be bought from Fishing Suppliers (see Fishing Suppliers below).
**** Note on bait: Through all levels and all types of bait, including Book 14 update, there remains zero evidence for consistent improvement in fishing time, catch quality, # of trophies, # of zone-specifics, anything. Bait simply doesn't seem to work. Current suggestion: save your money. ****
[edit] Equipment and Gear[edit] Poles- Basic Pole -- Given by hobbyist when you first learn the hobby
- Yew Pole -- +1 fishing level (player-crafted, recipe at Novice Woodworker)
- Well-made Yew Pole -- +3 fishing level (player-crafted, recipe at Novice Woodworker)
- Lebethron Pole -- +4 fishing level (player-crafted, recipe at Expert Woodworker)
- Well-made Lebethron Pole -- +5 fishing level (player-crafted, recipe at Expert Woodworker)
[edit] GearSo far, gear is all cosmetic. No clothing known yet that adds any fishing buff.
**** Note on poles: There is good evidence that a +5 pole can help you level-cap quickly in early levels. However, the bonus quickly drops off and is unnoticeable after about level 40-50. Poles with a bonus do not let you catch above your level. See Catch Test section. ****
[edit] Hobby Masters, Fishing Suppliers, and Quest Givers[edit] Hobby MastersLocation: Michel Delving, Bird & Baby Inn Purpose: Starts you fishing with quest to find Misty Bolger in Bywater Location: Rivendell, Last Homely House Purpose: Starts you fishing with quest to find Garbert in Tal Bruinen Location: Bree, Scholars' Stair Archives Purpose: Starts you fishing with quest to find Joy Bloomer in Staddle Location: Thorin's Hall, near Bard Purpose: Starts you fishing with quest to find Nokki S. of Noglond [edit] Fishing SuppliersLocation: Bywater, N of town near small footbridge Purpose: Fishing Supplier, bait vendor Location: Staddle, by Little Staddlemere Purpose: Fishing Supplier, bait vendor Location: Ered Luin, South of Noglond Purpose: Fishing Supplier, bait vendor Location: Tal Bruinen, Trollshaws along Bruinen S of Ford Purpose: Fishing Supplier, bait vendor Location: Forochel, Suryi-Kyla Purpose: Reputation Vendor sells Flounder recipes (see recipes below) [edit] Quest GiversLocation: Forochel, camp up hill near road to Ja-Rannit Quest: "Fisherman's Friend"; Level 48; reward: "Fisherman's Shirt & Waders" Location Forochel, Suryi-Kyla Quest: "Empty Larder"; Level 47; Must catch 10 "oily fish"; reward: 23s 80c, 500 Rep Location: Forochel, Hylje-Leiri Quest: "Bounty of the Sea"; Lvl 46 (repeatable); Catch 12 Icebay Salmon "where sea bubbles/boils"; reward: 37s 52c, 500 Rep [edit] Titles/Rewards and Deeds[edit] Titles/Rewards- Apprentice Angler --- Reach Fishing Level 10
- Journeyman Angler --- Reach Fishing Level 50
- Expert Angler --- Reach Fishing Level 100
- Master Angler--- Reach Fishing Level 150
- Lord/Lady of Streams --- Reach Fishing Level 200
- Compleat Angler --- Catch 50lb Salmon
- Darter Group Trophy --- Catch All 9 Darter Varieties
- Sturgen Group Trophy --- Catch All 9 Sturgeon Varieties
- Trout Group Trophy --- Catch All 9 Trout Varieties
[edit] Deeds- Salmon King--- Catch 50lb Salmon (Hidden Deed, only shows in log when you catch one)
- Darter-master --- Catch All 9 Darter Varieties
- Sturgeon-master --- Catch All 9 Sturgeon Varieties
- Trout-master --- Catch All 9 Trout Varieties
[edit] Recipes Involving Fishing[edit] CookingStats: Apprentice (+2 Will, +6 if critted), recipe from Novice Cook Stats: Cooking, Journeyman (+6 Will, +14 if critted), recipe from Novice Cook Stats: Expert (+12 Will, +23 if critted),recipe from Expert Cook Stats: Artisan (+18 Will, +32 if critted), recipe from Expert Cook Stats: Master (+24 Will, +41 if critted), recipe from Expert Cook Stats: Artisan (146 Morale & 110 Power every 30 sec/300 sec), recipe from Forochel Rep Supplier Rusu--Friend Standing Stats: Artisan (146 Morale every 30 sec for 300 sec),recipe from Forochel Rep Supplier Rusu--Ally Standing Stats: Artisan (110 Power every 30 sec for 300 sec),recipe from Forochel Rep Supplier Rusu--Kindred Standing [edit] Special/Unique Fishing Locations and Catches[edit] Known- Ettenmoors: Nothing to fish except weeds
- Dungeon Instances: All appear to be fishable, catching the normal range of fish as well as appropriate zone-specific fish
- The Rift: Want to fish next to the Balrog? No problem, catch the full range in Thaurlach's pool
- Forochel, Western side near wrecked ship: "Where water bubbles & boils" catch Icebay Salmon for Forochel Rep (see Quests above)
[edit] Possible- Thorin's Hall Rep Area: NPC describes "legendary" fish where he's fishing, no more info
[edit] Bugs[edit] Known- AH "Hobbies" Section not showing anything: In AH, searching at "Hobbies" level is empty. Must drill down to Fishing or go up to the whole AH
- Carn Dum Fishing: Even though the waters in Carn Dum are insta-death to players, they can still be fished for a nice range of healthy catches!
- Trophy Plaques Disappearing: Sometimes trophies placed in homes have their plaques disappear, leaving only the fish visible; hook issue?
[edit] Possible- Missing Hobby Master in Celondim/Duillond: All other starter zones get one, but not the Elf starter zone; seems there should be
[edit] Suspected- Fishing Buffs from Bait: Bait does not seem to contribute in any appreciable, consistent way to fishing ability
- Forochel Rep Supplier Recipes: Forochel Rep Supplier sells better recipes at lower reputation level, worse recipes at higher
- Hobby Text in Character Panel: Only describes the way a hobbit can spend a lazy but productive day, seems a dis on elves, humans, and dwarves
[edit] Fishing Catch Tests on Live ServerIn order to keep this page size down, all early tests have been removed to this post. The tests below are in chronological order, most recent at the top.
(18) Test by Aethelberht of nightcrawler vs. no bait. 7/24-26. Bridgefields, lvl 200, +5 pole, 100 catches each. Details here.
With nightcrawler: Junk - 13%; Regular - 55%; Trophy - 6%; Rare/25c - 1%; Recipe - 25% Without any bait: Junk - 15%; Regular - 55%; Trophy - 6%; Rare/25c - 0%; Recipe - 24% Conclusion: Meh. No significant difference between the two at all. There's still no consistent indication at all that bait works at all, on any level. More tests to follow, just to drive the point home to Turbine if for no other reason!
(17) Test by Aethelberht of nightcrawler vs. no bait. 5/26. Bywater, lvl 200, +5 pole, 100 catches each. Details here.
With nightcrawler: Junk - 13%; Regular - 58%; Trophy - 3%; Rare/25c - 0%; Recipe - 26% Without any bait: Junk - 16%; Regular - 56%; Trophy - 7%; Rare/25c - 0%; Recipe - 21% Conclusion: Wow. Very similar results to the previous test (#16 below) with the same conditions. With nightcrawler, twice in a row I've gotten fewer trophies but more recipe fish. This seems pretty interesting. Definitely worth yet another test.
(16) Test by Aethelberht of nightcrawler vs. no bait. 5/20. Bywater, lvl 200, +5 pole, 100 catches each. Details here.
With nightcrawler: Junk - 14%; Regular - 53%; Trophy - 3%; Rare/25c - 0%; Recipe - 30% Without any bait: Junk - 10%; Regular - 54%; Trophy - 10%; Rare/25c - 1%; Recipe - 25% Conclusion: Well, with bait my trophies & rares went down the drain, junk was up. But there -is- that recipe spike. Worth a second identical test.
(15) Ongoing tests by Telab to look at catch-type averages over time. Test updated 5/14. Latest details here. Starting at level 70 Telab has level-capped, made 100 catches, and recorded overall spread of catches. Currently at 800 catches.
(14) Test by Aethelberht of +5 pole vs. +0 pole. 5/11. SE Forochel, lvl 172, no bait, 100 catches each. Details here.
With +5 pole: Junk - 12%; Regular - 49%; Trophy - 12%; Rare/25c - 1%; Recipe - 26% With +0 pole: Junk - 9%; Regular - 64%; Trophy - 8%; Rare/25c - 2%; Recipe - 17% Conclusion: +0 pole gave less junk and more rares, but less trophy & less recipe. Adding this one to the record without trying to draw conclusions.
(13) Test by Aethelberht of red wiggler vs. no bait, 5/8. Eavespires (NW Evendim), lvl 152, +0 pole, 100 catches each. Details here.
With red wiggler: Junk - 16%; Regular - 55%; Trophy 7%; Recipe 21%; Rare/25c - 1%; high-level fish caught - 19 Without any bait: Junk - 11%; Regular - 55%; Trophy 10%; Recipe 23%; Rare/25c - 1%; high-level fish caught - 21 Conclusion: Still no consistent evidence that bait has any positive effect at all.
(12) Ongoing tests of +0 pole vs. +5 pole levelling alts from 1 to 11. Test updated 5/6. Details here. I have begun to create alts with the sole purpose of levelling their fishing skill from 1 to 11, then destroying and recreating them. There will be an equal number of tests using a +0 pole and a +5 pole. Any and all anglers are welcome to post their results; I'll keep the tally together on the details page. Conclusion: Still testing.
(11) Test by Rillas of +5 pole vs. +0 pole, 5/4. Falathlorn, Ered Luin. 100 catches, Level 111, no bait. Details here.
With +5 pole: Junk - 17; Regular fish - 62; Trophy fish - 5; Rare/25c fish - 2; Recipe fish - 14 With +0 pole: Junk - 18; Regular fish - 52; Trophy fish - 8; Rare/25c fish - 2; Recipe fish - 20 Conclusion: No evidence of better catches with +5 pole.
More certainly to follow. Fish on!! |
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